Q: Shouldn't we trust the Intelligence Agencies?

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NO! Being rationally skeptical is called critical thinking. "Trust but verify".
NO! Being rationally skeptical is called critical thinking. So as Reagan said, "trust but verify". If the evidence supports the case, and they're being open? Sure. If they're not being open, and the story doesn't add up, then "of course not". The CIA's (and FBI's) job is to often to lie. You don't think they'll lie to you for an agenda?
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NO! Being rationally skeptical is called critical thinking. So as Reagan said, "trust but verify". If the evidence supports the case, and they're being open? Sure. If they're not being open, and the story doesn't add up, then "of course not". The FBI is normally about telling the truth, but the CIA's job is to lie. And both the top of the FBI and CIA, in this case, have been caught lying, politicking (against this administration), the top leadership has been fired and are being investigated. Thus the media and democrats that have been telling us since Vietnam to never trust the CIA, are suddenly saying we should trust unnamed agency sources without evidence (and without question)? That doesn't sound political to you?

These are the folks that:

  1. didn’t see 9/11 coming
  2. that empowered the "Bush lied" falsehood with “WMD’s were a slam dunk”
  3. who was wrong on ISIS/Caliphate and said it was, "unfathomable to think ISIS could establish a caliphate in the Middle East”, and Obama confirmed later that, "ISIS was not on my intelligence radar screens” while pulling us out of Iraq (and enabling them to get a toehold)
  4. the same CIA director that helped in draft the ill-fated Benghazi talking points (that the attack was a “spontaneous — not a premeditated” protest)
  5. the same ones that caught texting about insurance policies against Trump, and had multiple people fired for abuse of power, corruption, fraud and lies?
  6. Remember the text about "We’ll stop [Trump]"? That was hidden from Congressional investigators by the FBI, after multiple requests for information. Then the texts were lost, and unrecoverable. Only after a stink and later investigations did it come out, proving the FBI was lying to congress. So not trusting the FBI after they lied to congress and the public about this stuff, isn't just prudent, it's proven to be wise.
  7. Also remember that there was a ton of evidence contradicting the Russian narrative, but that wasn't getting as much attention. Like UK intelligence asset that said he carried the leaks from a disgruntled Bernie supporter to Assange. (Shhhh).
  8. And finally the narrative is switching to Comey was at fault. Not for protecting Hillary from Crimes, or allowing the DOJ to illegally share information during an investigation, in tarmac meetings about "grandkids".
  • Remember, that the intelligence agencies contradicted themselves early on (NSA disagreed with CIA), it was only after the Obama Appointees cracked the whip, that they stopped. [1]


So if you always or never trust the agencies, then you're a loon (rube or conspiracy kook). Follow the evidence and behavior. The evidence around this whole thing has been so tainted by the Obama administrations abuses of power, and using cronies to do their bidding, that you'd be fool (or a Democrat) to blindly trust them on this.

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  • Also remember that there was a ton of evidence contradicting the Russian narrative, but that wasn't getting as much attention. Like UK intelligence asset that said he carried the leaks from a disgruntled Bernie supporter to Assange. (Shhhh).
  • And finally the narrative is switching to Comey was at fault. Not for protecting Hillary from Crimes, or allowing the DOJ to illegally share information during an investigate in tarmac meetings about grandkids -- but because he admitted to the people that he'd found MORE evidence of Hillary breaking the law, and they were investigating excuses for why not to prosecute her for that.

For 50 years, "Democrats" have been telling us not to trust the "intelligence community"

  • Eisenhower's 1961"Military industrial complex" speech has long been a staple of "The Left's" argument that we should fear the people who have nothing to gain from peace and everything to gain from war. (Even though it doesn't mean what they think).
  • Hollywood made countless movies telling us how rotten and corrupt they all were - "Falcon and the Snowman", "Enemy of the State", "Rendition", "Three Days of the Condor", "Missing" about the CIA's involvement in the Chilean coup, and the list goes on.
  • Books were written.
  • Protestors marched.
  • Whistleblowers were applauded.
  • Heroes of the left like Noam Chomsky were celebrated for railing against America's subterfuge around the world.

But NOW, suddenly, the left has totally reversed course. The "intelligence community" is beyond reproach, totally trustworthy (even if they lie for a living, and got caught lying over these issues), they are the paragon of virtue. If you don't question the Democrats sincerity, then you're a rube. And in a few years, we'll rub their noses in this, when the intelligence agencies show something they don't agree with -- like abandoning Vietnam will result in millions dead in Cambodia, Thailand, and Laos. (Something the Democrats have never owned responsibility for).

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